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We continue the discussion of four strokes vs two strokes for off road, enduro style riding. This is part 3 of the series on this topic. Please go back and see our other videos for more information. More videos on this subject will follow soon.
The more that I’ve ridden and tested dirt bikes over the years, the more that one thing has been driven home for me. There is no wrong answer to this debate. Sure, the 2 strokes are more fun for me to ride most of the time. Having said that, the 4 strokes certainly have their advantages in certain situations like on a track (I don’t ride tracks, so it really doesn’t matter to me).
Most of the time in the past couple of years, I’ve had a 2 stroke and a 4 stroke sitting in my garage. The only time I really get tempted to ride my 4 strokes is when I’m heading out to the desert where the speeds are going to be higher and the whoops are going to be deep. If I know I’m heading to tight, technical singletrack… I’m going to take the 2 stroke for sure.
I’m a 2 stroke convert because I have ridden 4 strokes since I was a kid. Back in the day, as a child, the 2 strokes scared me since the power was pretty much all or nothing. The big bore 2 strokes are not like this at all. They have tons of low end and mid range power. They are great.
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2-stroke = chainsaw with wheels, can’t stand that awful sound.
Why is your shirt inside out?
Its all about skill! People have beaten 4-strokes with 125 2-strokes
I think what’s Kyle is so right about is today’s 2 strokes , especially KTMs, are better than you can believe. You have to ride them to understand . They are light,agile, and have very controllable power….if you ride tight,gnarly stuff, they are just about unstoppable.
I got a 2016 Ktm 250 Xc-f , I think 2 or 4 are both good just personal preference.
Basically the only reason the 4 stroke was “faster” was because of the gearing
just stumbled across this vid. sounds like you guys only like 2 strokes because you like the sound. everything else about the 4’s you say is better
People just don’t get when I tell them two strokes don’t stall as often like you prove. They say 4 strokes don’t need as much clutch !!!!!!! Iam not talking about bogging but stalling ya dame idiots lol
As a bit of a new rider, my preference certainly tells me I probably like four strokes a little better, though that might just be bias, as that’s the only dirt bike I HAVE at current. But it’s also because I hear 2 strokes are built for serious speed, whereas I seem to think a little bit more about power. And my ratty old 250 gio has done it just fine for me so far.
Yeah I know it probably isn’t the best bike, but it’s what I could afford. Maybe when I get a little more money and experience I’ll invest in a brand name 2 stroke just to see what their like.
i love the sound of a two stroke way more then a four stroke
Well i am a dirtbiker but i think they both sound great
great edits!
I’m a 2 stroke guy for life I love my 2016 300 xc-w keep up the great videos
who are you trying to convince you or us?
4 strokes are like tampons
Every pussy has one
bored out 2 stroke I’m sure I can do that!!!! i prefer 2stroke over 4 stroke always
4 stroke won
2 Strokes all day!
love the grunt of a 4 stroke though
I will like a 2 srto
I like 4 strokes alot and i would never get a 2 Stroke because i just dont like them. But its ok if you have a 2 stroke, i dont judge people with 2 strokes I just dont like the 2 stroke bikes
4ts are louder for sure, unless you ride a stk xr400r. our group has a smattering of ktm2ts and a kdx 220 and you might think ,yeah you can hear theese things, then my son in law came with us on a yz250f , stk exhaust. lets just say you never had to wonder where he was in the woods.
2stroke for life
No mention of PDS vs linkage? Did you have your mic level set to manual for the sound comparison, or is it auto adjusting for volume.
so I am gonna get a 2stroke maybe. but should I??
It’s amazing to hear that four strokes have captured the hearts of the people, I grew up with two strokes and to me they sound so mean it gets my adrenaline flowing. Where as four strokes sound way too tame!! Just my personal bias!!!!
I’m a 2 stroke guy for life I love my 2016 300 xc-w keep up the great videos
his yellow shirt is inside out…
I have a 250 2 stroke & a 350 4 stroke (both KTM & both “W” models with extended gear ranges)..every time I swap bikes it amazes me how different each bike is. Very different riding styles (engine braking, low end grunt, ability to roll through rough terrain at insanely low RPM’s, etc.). At the end of the day the weight savings & apparent (not sure if i’m right on this point) lower center of gravity of my 2 stroke makes it more fun to ride when agility is needed but the stability of my 350 feels good at times too. What’s best? No such thing as an overall “best” IMHO.
These dumb idiots two strokes are way the fuck louder I can hear my friends two stroke from miles away
I have owned both and both are amazing, just different.
I like both 2 & 4
2 SMOKERS ARE BETTER THAN 4 JOKERS!! but seriously it’s all preference
I believe the manufacturers are spending more money on the R&D on the 4 strokes , than the 2 strokes because of the racing classifications now days , MX bikes are either 125 or 250s ,Dakar are all 4 stroke 450s , so there is becoming a clear industry standard on particular size bikes. 500-650cc bikes don’t get that sort of attention or money spent. dr650-klr650 have vintage technology in comparison for this reason.
Are you guys in Utah?
Also love both, but I’ll always have a 2stroke for cost reasons as well as performance (weight, simplicity and I can do most of not all my own work)
I just want to mention a point Sam talked about and it’s not to be critical of Sam, but how people can get blurry vision of both 2ts and 4 Ts, Sam mentions his brothers CRF 450 mx re noise and how he’s only half throttle but still noisy and also uses less gears, well now this is where comparisons need to be very clear, if I’m not mistaken correct me if I am wrong Sam is on a 250xc so of course he will be half throttle and up vs a 450, now if his brother was on a 250 CRF r or X he would be half throttle to pinned and even louder again and importantly be using the gears more so than the 250XC I have ridden many 200s, 250s over the years both 2t and 4t , love both but this is what people need to get, it’s got to be out into perspective, even Kyle saying the 350 is faster than again I suspect his 300XC, 1st its 50cc more capacity right! Gearing, what is the gearing, do the ratios match for a comparison, because the same tooth sprockets front and rear will be different on each naturally as put out different power to the ground, so it has to be compared at a ratio level, my point is unless you have ridden many bikes it’s hard to understand a the point of 2t vs 4t and imo why people are very emotional about it vs practical, also one ride on either will not give you an understanding of what’s best for you. These guys are riding lots of different bikes to help de-myth or improve what’s best for you/us and what’s cool about our sport is even when we know so much we are always learning, keep and open mind and grip it and rip it, what ever ya brung to the dirt!
I got a two stroke blaster
I love both! Four strokes torque in low rpm and the sound:3 Easy to wheelie! Twostrokes powerband and easy to fix! Both are awesome!
Even my ttr230 is louder than my mates ktm 200
the only 2 cycle engine I want I’d lawn and garden . leaf blowers chainsaws weed eaters
It’s amazing over a year later, and 2 strokes seem to be insanely popular and i’m seeing them more than 4ts
After graduating from high school I got a job and bought myself a 1979 Yamaha DT-250 2 stroke Enduro. Wish they’d bring em back. I loved that 2-stroke scream. Bulletproof!
I love your bike man its beautiful
2 bangers are more fun. strokers maybe are better(low end, power, etc.), but i’m not racing anymore. i ride for fun and the bangers are just more fun. i feel the same way about rekluse. i feel that not having one is more fun
How the fuck can a 350 four stroke be faster than a 300 two stroke?????