What Zero Motorcycles Isn’t Telling You – They Are Hiding Details – MUST SEE

Zero Motorcycles is hiding the true cost and range of their motorcycles, and I am going to review it and go through it. You are going to be shocked as to the TRUE numbers it costs.

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Shipping Department says:

Comparing EV to ICE >.< haters gonna hate. grown ups gonna move to the future and not care how much they're spending.

Jay Dee says:

I guess it all comes down to fun factor, ease of riding in traffic with no clutch, silence driving through the forest etc etc to make it worth while and how much spare money you have. Remember how expensive the first plasma flat tv’s were, the first cd players and computers, all have no resale value but we bought them anyway. Some people buy a new BMW and depreciate the price of a Zero in the first year alone. Someone should make a tiny petrol generator as a back up. You could put it in a gear sack for long trips. Then you have a hybrid and looking on the registration web site it means no registration fees. JD

Jay Dee says:

You forgot to add in the depreciation factor. If after 3 years you can sell the zero for 80% then it’s really only costs you say 2000 dollars. And If the petrol bike lost 5000 in value then the zero is better. I guess you can have the same argument about buying a BMW to a cheap car. A BMW will lose 80% of it’s value in 5 years but you don’t care because you like it. So with a Zero you are mainly buying it because you love the silence etc. Give it 5 more years and the price will be much more attractive.JD

Daniel Stafford says:

It’s a joke the average leisure ride time is one hour in the USA

MotoHDdk says:

I in no way “Stan” for Zero Motorcycles, however I can say that you probably never ridden one. It’s not really meant to go on the highway, or do long 3-5 hour motorcycle trips. It’s a fun commuter bike to hoon around town with. Preferably if you live in a large city. It’s not meant to be a replacement to a gas powered bike. More like a second bike to run around town and simply have fun/listen to the things around you. Your video did a good job of laying out the math/economics of it. But remember their market, current bike owners with extra cash who want to have fun. This bike is not meant for the highway, I wish people would stop trying to do it then complain when the batteries die.

darwin5763 says:

That is a hilarious video, i’m curious, Do you do cost analysis on You’re personal relationships? While you’re analysis is interesting it does not Account for all variables. Why would someone take a Private yacht to get to Hawaii when they can fly for half the price and get there faster. It just sounds like you’re frustrated for some reason.

Deeve_ says:

Great vid. The ridiculous short range makes this non competitive. If it could do 200miles it might be worthwhile.

bikebudha01 says:

I’m split.  I test rode a DSR last month.  Wow, the torq… it’s like crack.   The simplicity of not shifting in city riding, wonderful.  The silence, surprisingly nice – almost like riding a bicycle.  AND you can actually hear cars coming up behind you – safer.   But dam the price and range.  Currently have a 1600cc Triumph Thunderbird cruiser.  Joy to ride from state to state.  I actually don’t ride it that often, but when I do I usually do ‘day trips’, where I ride for 5-7 hours.  No way to do that on a Zero, at least not where I live.  And I have a Yamaha Zuma 125 scooter, which is fantastic for in-city running.  And it gets 95mpg.  The cost of BOTH bike was $16k.  That’s 3.5k less than a fully loaded DSR.  Maybe if I can find a used one, or an older ‘new’ bike hiding on some dealers floor….  I can’t see paying more than 10-12k for a fully loaded DSR, any more it just toooo much.  Although I can’t stop thinking about that test ride…. (the DSR was just hands down funner than either my cruiser or scooter).

Brian Johnson says:

If your a moron then you might run out of juice

Austin A says:

No disrespect, but the only thing I hate about this video is that you spend 80% of it going on about the fx 3.5kwh which is in no way meant to be daily ridden. You should be making your points about the street models, which then some of them get disproved. I get 120 miles combined highway and non highway(eco mode) on my 2018 S 13kWh.

I’m not rich. I was an 18 year old college student with a relatively good amount of money and income when I bought my Zero S. It has saved me ~$2800 in gas alone so far(January to November) versus my car I used to drive every day. That’s ~$3,400/year in gas I don’t have to buy. Not to mention insurance is half as expensive, no oil changes, no chain maintenence, and on top of that the zero will last longer than I will be alive. I could put a million miles on it and the only thing that will suffer is the battery capacity. It’s worth every penny in my books.

Sorry for the long comments. It takes a lot of writing to illustrate my real life experiences

KcKreicar says:

glad to see a well made video that shows the true cons of electric vehicles, if they came down on the prices of batteries and had improved range without almost costing the same as a new car then perhaps electric will completely dominate the market sometime in the near future. Until then, I’m still totally behind electric, but this video helps inform people beyond simple marketing ploys by the manufacturers. To get a Chinese equivalent electric full size motorcycle to that of the base Zero motorcycle configuration is one third the price of $8.5k believe it or not. Electric is def the future but it’s still not quite there.

Jim H says:

I’ve got over 30,000 miles on my 2013 Zero S. So there are no “hidden” costs for me. A comparison to gasoline bikes for price/range/convenience or even service wasn’t my pursuit. I sought a renewable fuel and diesel wasn’t proving itself to be entering the motorcycle market. I’ve adjusted a few of my riding habits but haven’t been stranded needing a charge. No power tank, no quick charger, my Zero is ready every morning for my commute. Webbyriddes’s imaginary concerns are hollow in my reality.

If you can afford it and you can adjust to fit your lifestyle – buy an electric motorcycle.

Here is a graph from my childhood that always endears me to unlabelled axis https://pcmuseum.ca/images.asp?images=5SMNashuaDSDD-2-750.jpg

metal head says:

alot of good points. who wants to ride a bike without the gear shifting and sound? lets pay a ton more for less fun lol but, if you think about it, there’s going to be tons of people camping at the charging stations pissing of prius owners lmao!!! to each his own i guess, i’ll stick to my lovely exhaust and clutch action.

Enigmasol Films says:

A completely un-objective video.

El Mission says:

Your vid fails because you are comparing a fully electric bike with combustion engine bikes. This is ridiculous. You should spend some time comparing electric bikes only and then it would be credible. The main reason folks purchase electric bikes is to save on all of the maintenance and fuel costs of a combustion bike. At this point long-distance electric bikes are expensive but as you know, technological advancement will drive the price down (for example, Super Soco TC city commuter bike tops out at 45mph and costs less than $5K).

Brady A says:

Hey man, I appreciate the video but I think you did not acknowledge the practicality of this bike for commuters. For people putting 15k+ miles on their bike per year, the Zero is perfect. You can use up most of the range to get to work, where you will be all day and you can let it fill up (for free, probably!) during your day. Yeah, it is expensive up front, but for the commuters this is perfect.

DARIVS ARCHITECTVS says:

AWESOME breakdown of the economics of owning a Zero!

Mark Ward says:

I like the structure of your argument but lots of people have commented on the advantages of electric bikes for commuting. I used to commute 40 miles each way in my Tiger 800 but spent a fortune on servicing and fuel. I bought a Zero and saved £5.00 per day in fuel alone. Servicing costs £100 for a 12000 mile service, nothing like the cost of the Tiger service at the dealer. Yes electric has its limits but is still great fun and good at getting through the traffic. Isn’t that why we all ride? Yes I kept the Tiger for the longer rides so am fortunate enough to have the flexibility. Ride safe.

gasdive says:

You could make exactly the same video about any bike. Pick a cheaper bike that’s nothing like it and make a whole bunch of stupid comparisons. In this case you compare the FX with a bike that’s nearly twice the weight. Make a video comparing the KLR with the FX and go on about how much money you’re going to have to spend trying to lighten it. Adding a rekluse clutch, adding a power shifter. Then a long diatribe about what do you do if you are in the middle of nowhere and you need an oil change. You’re stuck!

Spiritus says:

I think you’ve missed the point that these bikes are still aimed at people who are able to afford new technology. The technology that will make these machines affordable, and also give decent range through increased energy density, along with the necessary charging infrastructure, is still being developed and scaled up to a mass market. You’re basically making the same arguments that people made about the new fangled gasoline cars when everyone else was riding around on horse and carts.

NewZeroland says:

You did a great job laying out the cost differences, and the lack of range is a huge factor. I have a 2015 Zero SR and had to spend over $3k more on aftermarket chargers just to make it road trip-able. Financially, electric motorcycles aren’t comparable at all yet. What you’re missing in this is all the positives of electrics: better air quality, the convenience of plugging in at home, lack of vibration for a smoother riding experience, and my god the TORQUE! You can’t compare the acceleration of a KLR to a Zero at all, and that’s included in fun factor, which to a lot of us is well worth the premium.

We’re still in an early adopter period. Zeros as we know them now have only been around for about 6 years, and they’re still continuing to improve (6 years ago the highest model could only do 70 miles in the city). Yes they’re expensive, but buying one now is a way to support further advancement to eventually get a bike that can do 250 miles on a charge and also recharge in 5 minutes.

The biggest reason to support electrics is that gas motorcycles aren’t a sustainable option for the future. For most people who just commute to work and back, these are a great alternative. For the rest of us, we need to keep pushing the limits and showing where Zeros need to improve, so that people won’t compare them to KLRs lol.

CalumPlayz says:

First!

Mario Lopez says:

Thanks for your help

Marcus Smallwood says:

This was hilarious. I’m riding a Honda CB500x but my next two bikes will be a Zero DS with a chargetank for my year-round 15 mile a day city work commute and a Honda Goldwing for my roadtrips. I’ll save money by carrying a flip phone.

BladeVortex says:

You need to understand these bikes (and electric vehicles in general) are built for a specific kind of use case. You can get a Ninja H2 SX for the same price as their best and most expensive motorcycle, and it will most likely outperform or have similar performance in all forms. The cost of ownership of a Zero is trivial in comparison in every aspect. These bikes are for people that want to save money in the long run.

Scowler says:

Zero is advertising to the wrong market. You will NEVER see an electric ADV bike rivalling the KLR in range. They should stick to street bikes for civilian sales. Zero’s primary customers are government agencies. They’re taxpayer subsidized.

Moreover, the utility of any electric vehicle ends at two points, at city limits, and when hackers gain access to your smartphone. Worse, if the manufacturer can perform changes over-the-air someone can infect their system and turn every vehicle into a deathtrap with a single keystroke.

Viking MGTOW says:

the cost difference depends on where you live I think cos in Denmark the gas bike would have to pay road tax + co2 tax where the electric only pay road tax so you will save money on that + gas in Denmark is expensive af 1 litre of gas is 1,52 $ and electric is 0,18 $ I got an electric scooter and I spend 6,86 $ a week on electric if that had been a gas driven one I would have spent 18,28 $ in sted … also Denmark is small so the 29 miles would be okay hahahahaha 3 days back and forth from work for me hahahahaha … but I get your point tho and totally agree

Chaz Breese says:

​ WebbyRides If you can’t acknowledge any of your own bias, then your video is invalid and useless – it is a huge waste of time. Comparing apples to oranges is never a solid argument and readers/viewers see right through it – you are alienating your own readers/viewers. Be honest and your arguments will have more value and your readers/viewers will trust your words. Let’s see you step up to the plate with an honest video.

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